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The Art of Losing by Robert Turner
What can I do today that differs from yesterday? I recently watched a clip of the late Kobe Bryant where he talked about what we can learn from losing. In it, he talked about Beyonce watching a tape of her just-finished show, just to see what she could improve next time.
The great always strive toward perfection.
I once was at a live concert given by Barbra Streisand that was also being taped for later airing. We had paid hundreds of dollars for tickets to see her. Her opening was amazing, her voice incredible as usual.
Then, suddenly, she stopped. She appeared furious about something with her orchestra. It wasn’t perfect, and she wasn’t settling for less.
It took four re-starts. We were shocked at first, but finally, she got this opening song to the level she wanted the world to see. The earlier starts sounded great, but Barbra knew they weren’t perfect.
This need for perfection many people couldn’t understand, but the greats do. What Kobe was expressing was the same: You can learn from your failures, no matter how talented you’ve become. And when you have a natural talent and you’ve spent it on something that failed, see if more work would have made the difference.
The Long Ride Home
I’ve gambled for over fifty years and, honestly, I’ve often failed to correct my mistakes. It’s a lifetime work, always in progress. I see where I’ve erred and vowed never to do that again, and yet I do.
I know from experience that in college basketball you cannot bet against a home team for reasons beyond stated odds. For example, some teams can shoot over 60 percent at home. The crowd can take the visitors out of their game, or the referees can get caught up in the emotions. On any given night, the home team is more likely to play way over its ability. No other sport has as large a home advantage.
Now, look at why you lost a bet. It likely wasn’t a “bad” call or a team letting you down. By not fully valuing the intangibles, you didn’t do the hard work to win. So, learn from it. Losing makes you a winner when you can reevaluate your poor choices.
Once after going broke in a poker game, I had an hour-long drive home, which was plenty of time to reflect on my play. I realized that most of the time I lost I never held a proper starting hand. I began behind and stayed there. There was no reason for me to blame the dealer or the cards. I’d put myself in a position to get beat.
When You Are Your Worst Opponent
When playing poker, have you targeted a player but instead trapped yourself? I remember a WPT event where I’d decided that if I could flop a set, I could break a solid player who was dominating the table. I’ll never forget this hand. We both had lots of chips; neither one of us had lost a pot in hours. I did want to beat her. And yes, my ego can be a horrible thing.
She raised preflop and I called with pocket fours. The flop came ace-four-deuce. I knew she had ace-king and I had flopped my set. Her chips were mine. We were soon all in… and she showed me a set of aces.
Looking back, I asked myself, “Who was to blame for me losing?” It wasn’t my opponent, the dealer, or even plain bad luck. It was my stupid play. There was little reason to play against her at all, given her solid style. I busted because of my stupid ego: I got what I’d wished for but so did she. Talk about a walk of shame!
Many of my beats in life or gambling occurred because I didn’t do the hard work needed to be the best. Kobe knew this. You can learn so much from losing that it can make you a winner. What made Kobe one of best basketball players ever was his unending search for perfection.
Barbra Streisand knew she’d made mistakes in her timing, so she kept doing the song over to get it right. That’s what greatness is: the will to get things perfect, not just better.
In gambling we can’t do it over, but we can learn to do it right. I can learn that the next time I want to bet a college basketball road favorite, while there are so many other games to choose from, I deserve to lose. Do your work and factor in the intangibles.
There are plenty of games where you can give yourself the best edge. Just do the work.
Robert Turner is a legendary poker player most well-known for introducing the game of Omaha poker to Nevada in 1982.
He created Legends of Poker for the Bicycle Casino in 1995 and Live at the Bike, the first live gaming site broadcast on the Internet in 2002. He is currently working as a casino consultant.
Robert can be reached at robertturnerpoker@gmail.com for consulting and coaching. Find Robert on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/thechipburner and on Twitter @thechipburner.
Breaking Poker’s Code of Silence: The Stones Gambling Hall Scandal
As a poker player and creator of “Live at the Bike,” the first live stream of cash games on the internet, I am appalled at the cheating scandal currently rocking the poker world. If the allegations are true, this will be the worst scandal to hit broadcast poker.
Stones Gambling Hall in Citrus Heights, Calif., broadcast cash games on their “Stones Live” poker stream. The games were broadcast with a 30-minute delay. But something wasn’t right.
Mike Postle, a regular player on the stream, won at an extraordinary rate according to game theory. There’s an old saying in poker that says he made plays that would wake the dead. It seems Postle had help from the inside.
The case is so sensational it even made the mainstream news as Scott Van Pelt reported the story on ESPN. Van Pelt hit the nail on the head when he wondered how could someone play poker so accurately for so long making all the right decisions without knowing the hole cards of his opponents. I wondered the same thing.
Stones Suspends Poker Broadcast
The stream used RFID (radio frequency identification) technology, which transmits players’ hole cards to a computer. So how did Mike Postle allegedly get the information in real time? That’s the question at the center of a $20 million lawsuit filed by attorney Maurice “Mac” VerStandig on behalf of 24 plaintiffs who were allegedly cheated when they played on “Stones Live.”
“Allegations of cheating in a streamed game violate the core integrity that binds the poker industry. Players may all be trained to bluff when appropriate, but the line between representing an over pair and viewing other players’ hole cards is as well established as it is sacred. We look forward to pursuing this case on behalf of our clients, and have confidence in the judicial system,” VerStandig said in a statement.
I reached out to multiple people at Stones and have not received a response. The last statement they have on Twitter said, “@StonesGambling is committed to the integrity of our games. We have been alarmed by allegations of unfair play occurring during the streamed broadcasts of our “Stones Live” games and have acted quickly to investigate.”
I asked David Tuchman, one of the original commentators on “Live at the Bike,” for his thoughts on the Postle scandal. He said, “I believe in math so much, and I am a fanatic about stats. This does not look right at all.”
Poker Community Comes Together
A dedicated group of poker players went to great lengths to expose the scandal. Veronica Brill, one of the commentators on the stream, put her reputation on the line by bringing her suspicions first to Stone’s management then to the attention of Joey Ingram, who did an extensive investigation. Doug Polk, Matt Berkey and David Tuchman are all to be commended for investigating these cheating allegations.
Bart Hanson, another original commentator on “Live at the Bike,” said it best, “I hope the entire poker community can learn from this situation, and it will strengthen the security of live poker streams across the country.” I couldn’t agree more.
As technology has advanced in poker so has cheating. I have seen many things in my poker playing days from the south to California and everywhere in between. I could write an entire book.
There has been an unspoken code of silence in poker for far too long, and it is time for it to be broken.
Robert Turner is a legendary poker player and billiards/casino marketing expert. Robert is most well-known for introducing the game of Omaha poker to Nevada in 1982 and to California in 1986. He created Legends of Poker for the Bicycle Casino in 1995 and Live at the Bike, the first live gaming site broadcast on the Internet in 2002.
He has over 30 years’ experience in casino marketing and player development. Find Robert on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/thechipburner and on Twitter @thechipburner. He can be reached at robertturnerpoker@gmail.com for consulting and teaching.
Top 3 Places to Play Omaha Poker
As a marketing executive and poker player, I have spent many hours both in casino boardrooms and on the felt, so I see things that others may not see. I can speak on what a successful casino and poker room should look and feel like having played, worked and consulted with them for 40 years. When I look for a casino to stay and play, certain things are a must.
First, I came to give them my money, so I want every employee I come in contact with to smile. Have you ever wondered why Chick-fil-A is so successful? The customer experience starts with smiling employees making sure you get what you need. When I walk into a poker room, I’m looking for that same feeling. A smile doesn’t cost a penny.
Also, I look for a full-service poker room that spreads a great variety of games. One of my favorites, of course, is Omaha, a game I created 50 years ago. Omaha is growing in Southern California. Los Angeles card rooms have the best PLO action that I have seen in 50 years of promoting the game. Whether you are a novice, recreational player or professional, if you’re looking for an Omaha game in Southern California, there is more action here than any place in the world.
Hollywood Park Casino – Home of Big O
The top three casinos featuring the game of Omaha are located minutes from each other in Los Angeles, and each has over ten tables of Omaha each. Hollywood Park Casino in Inglewood, CA, features over 12 Omaha tables going on any given night. They have both regular Omaha and Big O. They feature games from $4/$8 Big O to a $6/$12 mix game.
Hollywood Park Casino also offers PLO games with buy-ins ranging from $500 to $1500 and offer even bigger games some nights. The PLO mix games have a $100 to $400 buy-in. They deal one round of high and one round of high-low.
Hollywood Park hosts one of the longest-running $40/$80 limit Omaha games in the country.
You can play a $20/ $40 limit mix of Stud Hi-Lo and Omaha that’s been a feature of Hollywood Park for over 20 years. Hollywood Park Casino also hosts a weekly Big O tournament with a $60 buy-in and a $2,000 guarantee every Saturday at 3 p.m. It is the only weekly Omaha tournament in the Los Angeles area.
Commerce Casino – Largest Card Room in the World
The Commerce, the largest cardroom in the world, is currently promoting a $8/$16 Big O and Stud Hi-Lo game. The Commerce features a PLO game with a $100 to $400 buy-in.
Gardens Casino – Gateway to OC
The Gardens Casino located in Hawaiian Gardens, CA, hosts several Big O $4/8 and $6/$12 games with a full kill. In the VIP section, they feature several $12/$24 mix games with a half kill featuring Big O and Stud Hi-Lo.
The Omaha action in Southern California is fast and furious. With so many variations to choose from, there is a game for every player. If you are interested in playing with me, stop by Hollywood Park Casino and say hi.
Robert Turner is a legendary poker player most well-known for introducing the game of Omaha poker to Nevada in 1982.
He created Legends of Poker for the Bicycle Casino in 1995 and Live at the Bike, the first live gaming site broadcast on the Internet in 2002. He is currently working as a casino consultant.
Robert can be reached at robertturnerpoker@gmail.com for consulting and coaching. Find Robert on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/thechipburner and on Twitter @thechipburner.
Partypoker Institutes Fair Play Initiative
Online gambling, both legal and not-so-legal, has been a major part of the gaming industry, for nearly 25 years. I first heard about online gambling in 1994 when a friend of mine told me he was going to file bankruptcy because he had lost tens of thousands of dollars playing blackjack on his computer. He had maxed out all his credit cards on a site that he knew nothing about.
During that time, online gambling has endured its fair share of scandals. However, the industry is now moving into a more regulated future with online giant partypoker leading the way.
When online poker was in its infancy, I knew that bot technology existed. In 2002 I was shown bot technology that could bluff opponents with artificial intelligence. That was eye-opening. I realized that In the wrong hands, technology could be used to destroy the integrity of the game. The problem was that it was being used not only by players but gaming platform developers as well. In other words, online poker was not fair for all and the recreational players had no chance.
Champion for Integrity in Online Gambling
Recently, a close friend of mine and Poker Hall of Fame member Mike Sexton became chairman of partypoker. Sexton has taken on the challenge of ensuring online poker is a positive gaming experience for all players by instituting its new Fair Play Initiative.
Sexton told me, “We at Party Poker are committed to changing the industry.” He continued, “partypoker has been working diligently over the past year to make the site safer and a more fair playing field for all players in a variety of ways:
1) Banned the use of HUDs (Heads-up Displays) which collects data on how players play (where that info is distributed or sold to others)
2) Hunted for and removed bot accounts (121 accounts were closed in July with a seizure of $175k, upping the total to over 600 account closures in the past 8 months)
3) Required everyone to change screen names to know they are people playing and not machines
4) Created a special Poker Fraud Team to investigate suspicious activity (collusion) and detect bots and other prohibited software”
The level of security on partypoker has improved dramatically. The gaming industry needs more Mike Sextons willing to change poker and take the duty of care to protect poker and its players seriously. I never want to hear another story where a player might be at an unfair advantage.
Reflections on the 50th WSOP
Poker is alive and well if the numbers for this year’s World Series of Poker (WSOP) is any indication. The WSOP kicked off with a bang opening weekend with the Big 50 shattering records for the largest live tournament in history with 28,371 entries.
This momentum carried through the entire series culminating with the Main Event drawing the second-largest number of entries in its 50-year history. 8,569 players vied for the title of poker’s world champion. In the early morning hours of July 17, Hossein Ensan beat Dario Sammartino and claimed the gold bracelet and $10 million.
ESPN did an outstanding job broadcasting live poker which can be a challenge to keep both entertaining and educational. You could learn so much from watching poker live and not just an edited version showing the most exciting hands and situations to hold the audience’s attention.
Nick Schulman, a three-time WSOP bracelet winner and well-respected poker commentator, made a comment about this year’s Main Event, which drew some major criticism. When he said don’t watch the Main Event to learn how to play poker, a Twitter war erupted which may have resulted in Nick being removed from being a guest commentator for the rest of the event.
Schulman, an excellent game analyst, gave some expert insight into the game, which he plays at the highest levels. He was spot on about the level of play, and I agree with him. Nick did not back down and went on Twitter to defend his opinion: “The tourney is soft with some incredible players battling.”
Nine New Millionaires
The final nine were playing so much small-ball poker it made the game play very slow.
One young amateur player named Kevin Maahs from Chicago decided to slow the game to a crawl, which really hurt the live broadcast. I am sure the final nine, except the winner, wish they could go back to that table and replay their hands again.
Most said in their exit interviews it was the most exciting time of their lives and thanked their family and friends for the support. I salute every single player who had to navigate through 8,560 players to get the final nine and a guaranteed payout of $1 million.
I think the money, which for most young poker players, was life changing did effect the decisions being made at the final table. Italian poker pro Dario Sammartino, who finished second, was impressively dressed in a tuxedo and had the most experience of any players at the final table. the crowd favorite. All-time bracelet winner Phil Hellmuth, along with my wife, thought he would win it all.
Sammartino made some great reads of other opponents’ hands but also made some big mistakes that will haunt him when he watches the replay of hands after the event. He had friends fly from Italy to root for him as part of a singing cheerleading group of fans that kept us entertained.
New Poker Champion Crowned
At one point Ensan, who also had a loud group of fans on the rail, had to raise his hand to ask Sammartino’s fans to cool it. The final table players seemed to bond as friends and not as rivals which was a pleasure to watch. They were all living the dream.
In what turned out to be the final hand of the Main Event, Ensan had pocket kings, and his opponent had a flush draw and a straight draw, Pocket kings held up, and Sammartino had to “settle” for $6 million.
It was a great end to a historic WSOP. One thing is for sure–for those of us who love poker, we are ready for the 2020 WSOP.
Road to the WSOP: A Long Way from Alabama
I have been playing in the World Series of Poker (WSOP) almost since it began in 1970, and this year there was an excitement in the air I haven’t felt in years.
In 1973, I made my first trip to the WSOP. My good friend Ray Hall told me to call Jack Binion and tell him I was a poker player, and everything will be taken care of.
Ray was right. Four of us drove out to Las Vegas from Alabama, and I have never missed a series since.
One of the more unusual things I remember was the year there was not enough room for the players to play at The Horseshoe. Eric Drache, the tournament director at the time, went around to the casinos downtown and asked if they would allow players to play the WSOP tournament in their poker rooms.
We were walking back and forth from the Four Queens, Fremont and Golden Nugget with our tournament chips in hand. What a sight that was.
Chance to Be Champ
For the WSOP’s silver anniversary in 1994, the winner of the Main Event received $1 million and his weight in silver. Jack Binion was a poker marketing genius.
That year the Main Event drew 268 players, which is about how many people were in line in front of me to use the bathroom this year at the Rio 25 years later during the Big 50 tournament.
Back to 1994.
I made the final table of the Main Event that year and could not sleep the night before; I kept thinking, “Could I really win the big one and be part of poker history as a world champion?” I just had to find a way to take my low chip stack and bust the other five.
It was not meant to be. I finished in 6th place and won $50,000. But I was proud of my performance on poker’s biggest stage.
Not in Alabama Anymore
I had come a long way from the cotton fields of Alabama where we played in a tractor shed, and bologna sandwiches or crackers tasted so good. Now I was eating the free steak and shrimp Benny and Jack Binion had waiting for the poker players every night on our dinner break.
What a privilege it is to still be playing in the WSOP. I played in the Big 50, the largest live poker tournament in history. This $500 buy-in event had 28,371 entries creating a prize pool of $13,509,435.
The Saturday morning of the Big 50 there was a traffic jam on the freeway not for a sporting event or concert but for a poker tournament. I have never experienced anything like it.
The buzz on social media promoting the event and all the table talk in the poker rooms contributed to the record-shattering turn out. The city of Las Vegas is the big winner, and they owe a great deal of gratitude to Caesars for bringing this poker convention to town.
The only suggestion I have concerns relaying information in real time. For example, during the Big 50 they opened up windows for quicker sign ups, but communicating this to players was not easy. My wife was escorted to a registration line 10 deep while hundreds waited in the main line. Some employees were saying sold out, and players were texting friends not to come while other employees were saying everyone will get in.
But none of that takes away from the phenomenal job WSOP Vice President Jack Effel and WSOP Operations Manager Tyler Pipal did putting on the biggest live poker tournament in the world. I predict this summer’s WSOP continues smashing records.
Robert Turner is a legendary poker player most well-known for introducing the game of Omaha poker to Nevada in 1982.
He created Legends of Poker for the Bicycle Casino in 1995 and Live at the Bike, the first live gaming site broadcast on the Internet in 2002. He is currently working as a casino consultant.
Robert can be reached at robertturnerpoker@gmail.com for consulting and coaching. Find Robert on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/thechipburner and on Twitter @thechipburner.
Big O Omaha: Poker’s Action Game
I’m often asked what is the difference between four-card Omaha and the five-card version (Big O). First let me say that having that extra card really creates a great deal of action. I’ve even heard it been called Omaha on steroids.
Recreational players love Big O. After playing with five cards, they say they cannot go back to four cards, and Hold’em players say they cannot go back to two cards.
Big O is played with 8 players, so imagine sitting in a poker game getting  4-1, 5-1 or sometimes even 7-1 on your money with every bet. The number of players seeing a flop and chasing hands, creates action you rarely see in limit Hold’em games. Remember I’m only talking about limit Hi-Lo here, not high only.
Like in any other poker game, the best poker players usually win the money. In all limit Omaha games, you can play very tight with a correct range of starting hands and beat the game consistently. Having patience keeps you and your bankroll under control.
Step Out of Your Comfort Zone
If you are ready to step out of your comfort zone and play a game that gives you an adrenaline rush and a chance to win a lot of money, then learn how to play Big O. Naturally you want to start with an ace deuce in your hand and preferably another small card for backup. The back up card is the key. What that means is you need a card below five for insurance to keep you from getting counterfeited.
Do not play middle cards meaning hands with with 7s ,8s or 9s; it will only cause you to lose more chips. The players that are playing super low cards win half the pot, and if you play middle cards that will ultimately cause you to lose a lot of money over the long term.
I want to be clear. Do not play like I do. As my wife says, she learned how to play from me. She watches what I do–then does the opposite. I’ve been told more than a few times I’m too aggressive and like to gamble too much. I am like Will Rogers. I’ve never met a hand I did not like.
But if  you really want to win money, do not raise pre-flop with an ace deuce and one other baby card under a 6. Preferably the ace is suited. The reason you want to call in this spot is to maximize your potential profit by getting more players in a hand where you are a favorite to win. This is the opposite strategy in most poker games where you want to raise to shorten the field to improve your chances of winning.
10 Tips
Below are ten tips that will give you the knowledge and confidence to play in any Big O game:
- Always play super low card hands or all paint. Avoid middle cards.
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I like one or two pictures in my hand in case the flop comes with a mix of low and high cards. This gives you a chance to pivot your hand.
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Because hands play to showdown more often, you have a better opportunity to analyze your opponents’ plays.
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Raising the pots does little to help you win. The nuts on the turn is not the winning hand many times. The hand is won on the river.
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In the first three positions, check raising is important to build your pots.
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Back up cards are the most powerful weapon in your arsenal.
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Your swings are greater than most poker games, so when your rush happens manage your money.
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When you’re running bad, change seats or games if possible. Maybe take a break.
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Keep your opponents in, so the pots are bigger when you are drawing at the absolute nuts.
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Regarding game selection, choose tables with lots of action. Avoid dead games which means the players are too tight, folding too much which means smaller pots and higher rake.
Play with me
Hollywood Park Casino in Inglewood, Ca, led the change over to Big O. All the other card rooms in Los Angeles followed. The only Big O tournament spread in the Los Angeles-area is held every Saturday at Hollywood Park Casino at 3 p.m. It’s only a $60 buy-in with a $2,000 guarantee and a $5 food voucher. Â I’m there every Saturday. Stop by and say hi, then stay and bust me at the table.
Robert Turner is a legendary poker player most well-known for introducing the game of Omaha poker to Nevada in 1982 and to California in 1986. He created Legends of Poker for the Bicycle Casino in 1995 and Live at the Bike, the first live gaming site broadcast on the Internet in 2002.
Robert has over 30 years’ experience in casino marketing and player development. He has served as an executive host at the Bicycle Casino and MGM. He is currently working as a casino consultant.
Robert can be reached at robertturnerpoker@gmail.com for consulting, marketing and coaching. Find Robert on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/thechipburner and on Twitter @thechipburner.
More Tales from the Felt: Miami John, Part 2
Thank you to everyone for making Part 1 of “Miami” John’s story such a great success. You can read the article that originally appeared in Gaming Today here: https://www.gamingtoday.com/casino_games/poker/article/81865-Miami_John_viable_candidate_for_Poker_HOF#.XKTIUEmsD54.facebook.
When I think of the Poker Hall of Fame, I notice that several names are missing. These players have made a positive impact on poker the last 40 years. One of these names is “Miami” John Cernuto. His accomplishments speak for themselves. He has the most tournament cashes of all time.
I’m reminded of one tournament in particular at the Bicycle Casino. Cernuto says, “Only a handful of players have ever won three events in one venue, but no one had ever won four. At the 1999 Legends of Poker, I did it. Four ring events in one venue.”
He discussed how the price we pay to play the game we love has increased, “I don’t know why or how, but from 2008 till present, the industry has been sucker punching the players in order to extract more money to play their tournaments. I’m sure if you had an industry spokesperson he would be able to tell you the whys and the hows, but the bottom line is they are choking poker to death.”
He continues, “The problem is there cannot be a meeting of the minds when only one mind is in charge and the other doesn’t have a voice. The WSOP is the Holy Grail, but their numbers have gone down in many events over the last few years. They’ve made some changes this year that will enhance the WSOP experience by improving its structures and starting stacks. I hope this will encourage more participants. I’d like to see some lowering of fees or add some benefits in the form of hotel/food comps. But until players have an actual voice, I’m not holding my breath for the industry to change its position.”
Cernuto has played against hundreds of players, but some names stand out. In No-Limit, the masters of the game include Phil Hellmuth, Daniel Negreanu and anyone under 30 who played a million hands online. Other formidable opponents in his favorite games include:
- 7 Stud. Danny Robison/Barb Enright
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7 Stud Hi Lo. Men “The Master” Nguyen/Susan Genard
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Limit Hold’em David Chiu/Cissy Bottoms
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Razz Ted Forrest/Don Zewin
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2 to 7 3 Draws Lenny Martin
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Mixed games Jimmy the Mix aka Woods/Allen Levinson
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PLO8 Mike Wattel/Frankie O’Dell
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PLO Most Europeans
What keeps Cernuto at the top of his game is the way he acknowledges both the past and looks to the future. He is quick to praises the new generation of players:
“Nowadays the kids enter the poker world with tons of experience. It has taken me a lifetime to play a million hands and they achieve this in a year or so. Their prime mean age is probably 40. They are amazing and deserve the praise and accolades that they have received. What I would like to do is be thankful that our game has flourished, but also reflect on those that pioneered this and made this all possible. Without Benny and Jack Binion, Doyle, Moss, Reese, Straus and their buddies, this wouldn’t have been here for me.”In my 50 years of playing poker, I have seen many players come and go. Very few players could survive the swings and the pitfalls. Not only has Miami John stood the test of time and maintained his integrity, but he is still at the top of his game. He is a great ambassador of the game and deserves to be in the Poker Hall of Fame. To paraphrase the legendary actor James Woods, if not now, when?”
Robert Turner is a legendary poker player most well-known for introducing the game of Omaha poker to Nevada in 1982 and to California in 1986. He created Legends of Poker for the Bicycle Casino in 1995 and Live at the Bike, the first live gaming site broadcast on the Internet in 2002.
Robert has over 30 years’ experience in casino marketing and player development. He has served as an executive host at the Bicycle Casino and MGM. He is currently working as a casino consultant.
Robert can be reached at robertturnerpoker@gmail.com for consulting, marketing and coaching. Find Robert on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/thechipburner and on Twitter @thechipburner.
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